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on last minute notice. tracy: right. >> as we come closer and closer to the fiscal cliff now the consumer is saying wait a minute, i'm hearing reports my taxes goo up additional five or 10,000 a year. i may start to temper my spending now. we're finally sighing the consume react. a good part that drove the decline in consumer confidence. ashley: talking about the jobs report, headline numbers great. we added more jobs than we thought. the unemployment rate down to a 10-year low. >> the report doesn't tell the entire story. first reaction. this is great report. double the consensus forecast. remember we only beat expectations because they were so tempered because we anticipated a negative effect from sandy. going through the different sectors aside from construction this appears this is clean report, really telling us what the underlying organ trend in the labor market is which says we're continuing to lose momentum from the initial very impressive job report at the beginning of third quarter. tracy: you say the fed will not be impressed with this kind of growth. what does that mean? >> we
speaker john boehner, says there has been little progress. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> democrats show no signs of backing off from supporting the president's hard-line stance on raising the incomes tax rate for the rich. >> we democrats realize there have to about two sides to the bargain, but in 2011 we put both revenues and cuts on the table. >> but one republican senator revealed this week that tax increases might help solve america's debt crisis. so far the g.o.p. has stood imeps raising taxes. >> what we ought to be working on is the other 93%, because if you want to do what he wants on tax rates, you affect% of the deficit. we have spent ourselves into a hole and we're not going to raise taxes and borrow money and get out of it. so, will i accept a tax increase as a part of a deal to actually solve our problems? yes. ago am -- >> ama: the federal government is planning for the possibility of cuts. the white house ordered the military to plan on slashing 500 billion from the m
the fiscal cliff deal has come to? why 81-year-old former senator alan simpson is going gangnam style to get everyone's attention on debt. >> it has officially jumped the shark. >>> alan st. pierre is the executive director for the national,or for the reform of marijuana laws. oregon senator jeff merkley, heidi ewing, and rachel grady will be joining us. steve satich, ohio congressman, steve latourette, and ambassador nick burns are our guests this morning. it's thursday, december 6th, and "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome, everybody. our starting point this morning, some major developments to tell you about in egypt, after angry protests against political moves by the president, mohamed morsi, have turned deadly. tanks, armored personnel vehicles, all stationed outside the presidential analysis cairo. not only are they guarding the palace, they're also keeping apart supporters and opponents of morsi. hundreds of his islamist supporters already taking to the streets in cairo this morning. opponents are gathering not very far away. last night the two sides clashed right outside t
like a campaign rally. he's out there campaigning now for his position on the fiscal cliff and also campaigning against the anti-union vote that's coming up tomorrow in michigan. >> he certainly owes organized labor. and obviously if you're a democratic president and there's a ballot like this, certainly hard to see why you would stay away, especially in a state like michigan. but i think what we are seeing is the president applying pressure to the republicans and looking for wedges. one of the wedges we're going to see is the republicans who feel more strongly about the income tax versus republicans who feel more strongly about the capital gains tax. the president may offer different kind of concession, to those two groups. >> the criticism he's getting is instead of going out there and ka paining in michigan and elsewhere, bring these republicans over to the white house, get in a room, work out this deal this week as opposed to next week and resolve it so the country doesn't go over the fiscal cliff. >> where's congress right now? they're home. where's congress most of the time? a
happens with the fiscal cliff. that is coming. what it will cost you. bill: hello, old man winter. he is out there and he is acoming. a major blizzard raging across the midwest bringing record levels of snow. it is de10th, right? martha: it is time. bill: so who is next? ♪ . martha: old man winter, a major storm is pounding parts of the upper midwest, unleashing record levels of snowfall. that's a lot out there. high winds, frigid air. minnesota of course very used to this kind of weather this time of year but even this is really out of the ordinary. reporter tom halden with our minneapolis affiliate ksft. he is driving, i don't know if i recommend that. there he is. he is out of the car. how bad is it out there? >> reporter: well, martha, it is really cold. we have been driving around the twin city roads this morning. we've been streaming and thought, you know what? it is 12 degrees. we have a full foot of snow on the ground. the kids are out of school, a lot of them, why not hop out of the car and let you guys know that winter finally arrived here. you know what? this is normal ki
to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> we've had time. the president has given the republicans flexibility to come up with a credible, specific plan. what they offered in return was an empty letter lacking in specifics. >> meanwhile, vice president biden is having lunch with several middle class americans who would see their income taxes go up if the tax cuts are not extended. all of this comes as the first jobs report since the election exceeded expectations. the u.s. economy added some 146,000 jobs last month. that was enough it to drive the unemployment rate down to 7.7%. joining me to talk about all of it, florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz and she chairs the democratic national committee. good friday afternoon to you. >> thank you. >> john boehner said today that democrats' plan is to, quote, slow walk our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. how do you respond it to that? >> well, that's just utterly preposterous. the republicans right now in the house of representatives have a bill that would ext
: a lot of the leadership and the players in these fiscal cliff discussions coming to the microphones moments ago. here is eric cantor, here is what he said. >> we have not had any discussion and any specific w-s thispecifics with this president about the real problem which is spending. we have got to do something about the spending. an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. what will solve the problem is doing something about the entitlements, taking on the wasteful spending in washington. we can't just keep borrowing money and raising taxes and roblem to go away. that is our point to the president. as the speaker said, we want to sit down with the president waoerbgs wan, we want to talk spefrs. w specifics. we put an offer on the table. he out of hand rejected that. where are the specifics, and the discussions, nothing is going on. meanwhile people of this country are the ones who suffer. we ask the president, be specific about the spending, so we can address the wasteful spending in washington and address the problem. martha: eric cantor and john boehner saying
cliff from a local congressman coming up. >> > >> >> pelley: finally tonight, dave brubeck was a jazz pioneer who kept his own kind of time. as a pianist and compose ever, he challenged the standard musical cadence with exotic rhythms and styles. brubeck, who would have turned 92 tomorrow, died today. anthony mason takes time out to remember his work. >> reporter: dave brubeck's music was a defining sound of jazz clubs in the '50s and '60s. a "time" magazine cover story in 1954 described him as a wigging cat with a far out wail. >> are there any rules for improvisation? >> you bet your life there are and the rules in jazz would just scare you to death. >> reporter: the son of a california cattle rancher and classically trained pianist, brubeck had a natural ear for melodies. at home in connecticut in 1961 he told walter cronkite -- >> it's like a baseball player or any athlete. he's only good when he instinctively does the right thing. the dave brubeck quartet's signature tune "tyke five" appeared on their landmark album "time out." released in 1959, it was the first jazz album to sel
the fiscal cliff when nothing we're doing is coming close to deal with these issues. melissa: we talk about how hard it is to simplify the tax code. our guest before you guys said the same thing. it could be really simple. we could put out three rates for people with absolutely no deductions exceptions. if you're in this group you pay 35% or whatever. make up your number. >> right. melissa: if you're in this group pay 30, and this group pay 25. no exceptions, no deductions that would be one page tax code. whats wro with that, michael. >> because we live in a complex country with complex countr you don't want people, somebody with $50,000 of emergency medicalxpenses exactly the same as somebody who doesn't have those things? you want to tree somebody, the fact of the matter is you want to lance between simplicity and targeting. you want to balance between fairness and revenue. you need to make these - melissa: who dids decides what is fair? get out there and we pick nners and losers we say who's problem is worth taxpayer dollars and who's problem is not the government's problem. and that's h
't come at an opportune time of the fiscal cliff, both the talks and the fact we're short on money. will it hurt his party or not? roland martin joins me. good to see both of you. ryan, you spoke very early on about how well you thought chris christie handled this sform politically and ever other way, but now he asks for fungd as republicans try to cut spending. is he hurting his own party? >> whether you're a republican or democratic governor you want to secure money from federal taxpayers. that's a classic move. it sure is. is it undermining republicans in congress? it probably is, but frankly chris christie is looking out for his own political future and it's his only option. new jersey is in a very tight fiscal situation because they have a balanced budget requirement. they can't run deficits the way the federal government can, and this has a huge impact on the state economy. frankly, i think you see more situations in which republican governors are going to be pitted against the republicans in congress because those governors, for example, they want that medicaid money to keep
with these fiscal cliff negotiations? do you see that coming together, both sides? >> i hope so but there's a cliff in this country in terms of how we approach things. the president ran on a plank, very wealthy no longer should get a tax break. middle class taxpayers should continue to get a lower tax than they otherwise would. the republicans, if i might say so, simply have to listen to the election results. the president was clear. we asked can dates to be clear about their positions. the president was utterly clear that the tax rates for high income people should return to the clinton era. the people spoke. the republicans should listen. jenna: congressman, pleasure to have you on set. look forward to have you come back. talk to us about spending at the national level. >> be glad to do that. jenna: thank you for the time. jon? jon: get away from all this earthly talk of fiscal cliffs and other problems and get to dramatic new findings from space. nasa's hubble space telescope has helped astronomers discover something never seen before. we'll tell you about it coming up [ malennouncer ] it's tt t
will come back to work next week hopefully to get a fiscal cliff deal. >> maybe the movie "lincoln" will inspire senators to work together. a special screening is scheduled for december 19th. senate aides said they will not screen the movie on the senate floor but somewhere else. >> michelle obama has said over and over again she never wants to run for office but a new poll shows her leading senator mark kirk in a very hypothetical matchup. the illinois republican had a stroke last year. >> tonight the entire obama family will gather around the christmas tree. it just happens to be the national christmas tree. it will take place at 5:00 eastern time. >> if you read only one thing this morning, maybe you're already thinking about your new year's resolution to get in better shape. how could you resist this headline? my must read is courtesy of prevention magazine. it's on facebook/jansingco. yep, they're real. we've got more rollbacks on toys all december. wait, was that real? [ male announcer ] this christmas, get the hottest brands and rollbacks on the season's hottest toys, like t
convinced they are not going to come to an agreement on the fiscal cliff unless compelled to do so by an adverse external event like a sharply lower equity market. lou: and is, you know, i can't imagine a market ever going down as john is suggesting here simply because a government chooses not to function. >> well, if it means we're headed into recession, the markets will react. in a typical bear market, stocks sell off by 20%. it's great to have a compromise before the year end, but time is running out. it's not possible. lou: how is it that a treasury secretary responsible for the integrity of the markets, the currency, responsible, indeed, for the financial system of this country, largely, broadly, and internationally, would sink to the level of a political operative making statements about we're going over the fiscal cliff and we're ready to go. >> the president put him in charge of the negotiations from his point of view. lou: clever. >> he's wearing two hats at this point in time. consider here, yes, there's a big complicated negotiation that needs to take place, but there's
report because there is in progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another week. >>reporter: he calls officials saying they are ready to go over the trip. >>shepard: democrats insist that revenue, revenue, revenue is the key. >>guest: president obama campaigned on it and obviously won and democrats insist upper income americans should pay higher taxes but there could be room to negotiate but their point is they don't want to talk about other aspects of a deal until the g.o.p. gives in on their demand for more tax money. >> what is lacking are the revenues. we cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. what reduces the deficit are jobs. job creation. after spending cuts, and medicare saving, and next is the revenue. >>reporter: leader pelosi spent time at the white house today meeting with president obama on what we are told are a number of issues. >>shepard: thank you, mike, from washington, dc. we know that business collects information from us when we go to our website our mobile apps. usually it is legal. there i
of the u.s. are solid, despite the fiscal cliff concerns coming out of washington. she says stocks could get hit in the early part of the area if we go over the fiscal cliff, but the fundamentals of the economy are still good. >>> all right. apple stock dropped more than 6% yesterday. shares were down about half a percent in pre-market trading this morning. no concrete news pushing them down, but today there's another hearing in the patent case with samsung in california. and a tech research report generatored a lot of buzz that apple's tablet competitors could eat into its market share. >> interesting. >> thanks, christine. >>> well, the good news is, let's do the fiscal cliff and the good news. and it's not very much. but at least the two sides are talking, by phone. not face to face. house speaker john boehner and the president are hoping to break the fiscal cliff ice. now we're just mixing metaphors, left and right. speaking on the phone, 26 days left, of course, until we tumble over the cliff or slide down the slope or fall off the precipice or however you want to put it. we could,
up, the looming fiscal cliff. you know, it's part of our nation's financial problem. but what about the spenning? how do we get a handle on the growing $16 trillion deficit? coming up next, tim murphy of pennsylvania will be here to tell us what else the nation needs to do to get our economic house in order. have you heard about that tragic situation, josh brent, cowboys defensive lineman? he faces cter a car crash that killed one of his teammates? that's straight ahead. >> it's really unfortunate that that happened, making an everyday decision that can affect everything everybody's life. >> i am sure it will be difficult to move on. but i am sure they will bounce back and be able to come around. s my husband and i can't stop eating 'em! what's...that... on your head? can curlers! tomato basil, potato with bacon... we've got a lot of empty cans. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >> jamie: another sad story out of the,r of the nfl. a member of the dallas cowboys is facing manslaughter. josh brent was allegedly drunk and speeding during a car accident saturday m
. >> the president has known about the so-called fiscal cliff for a year but has yet to come up with a plan that actually reduces our deficit. i'm willing to work with anyone to put a plan on the table, but we're not willing to negotiate with someone who hasn't put a plan on the table. the president has not put a serious plan on the table. >> as far as a compromise on the marginal tax rate 35% going up let's say 36% or 37%, is that acceptable? >> no. no. because marginal tax rate increases if there is any increase in revenue, just gives them more to play with on capitol hill and more to spend. when we talk about fairness, when the top 2%, the $250,000 and above are already paying 45% of total income tax, that's a big question of fairness there too. >> who should nicki haley name to replace you? >> i talk today her today. i share the same philosophy, the conservative philosophy. i told her i trust her decision and i'm not going to push her one way or another. >> a lot of speculation, congressman scott? >> he's a wonderful person. our whole delegation is really strong. she's got a tough choic
this country. oking at the real nbers the fiscal cliff. werojeed it out over 10 years if we sow you the big fufull screene made and numbers look pretty scary from tax perspective ther if we went er the fiscal clit would increase taxes 5.6 trillion. that is 10-year period. fairly say no one believes we would staon the road for 10 years. i want to do it so you do side by side comparison. spending cuts 1.2 trillion. the president wants to raise taxes 1.6 trillion. cut spending by 600. the house plan looks like sort of a flip-flop of that. what do you think of all these numbers. what do u make of it? what is your first impression? >> i think the point that you made is almost in passing is very ey point. thesese areprections. the 10-year projections. when was last time in washington 10-year spending projections actually came in at or low what the projections wewere met to be it never happens. sames true o the revenue side wit taxes. i think the numbers we're lang out here are probly the quote, uuote best-case scenario terms of what could actually hapn. just in terms of the pure math. not in te
whether washington can work out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. stocks rising, well, modestly is a big, strong word for what happened. technology stocks helping the dow up 15 points. the s&p up a fraction, the nasdaq rose nine. trading light. technology stocks strong in the market, and i'm speaking, obviously, comparatively. hewlett-packard setting the tone, leading the sector, not commenting on speculation that carl icahn has been amazing a position in the stock -- amassing a position in the stock. cisco systems -- mcdonald's, also a dow stock rising on news that sales rose 2.5% last month. that stock up just about 1% today. piper jaffray calling apple a $900 stock based on fundamentals. it may be, but it's got a ways to go after today, apple losing $3.43 on the day, $8 above its low of the session and trading slightly higher in after hours. crude oil prices down on the day for a fifth straight session closing at 85.56, the decline in crude also showing up at the pump. the average price of a gallon of gasoline dropping 11 cents, and we're looking at an average price of $3.34 a gallon.
report because there's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking. christmas is coming. the goose is getting fat. but in many homes across america, it ee's a very, very l time. >> the goose is getting fat. haven't heard that before. that was speaker john boehner and house minority leader nancy pelosi. they're reacting to yesterday's jobs numbers and the looming fiscal cliff crisis with neither side eager to budge or make concessions. the big question, can they come to an agreement before time runs out or will they take huge risks by cliff diving on december 31st. congressman allison schwartz is a ranking member on the house budget committee which will of course play a crucial role in these fiscal cliff negotiations. she has come in for us on a saturday afternoon. we do appreciate your time. >> good to be here. >> thanks for being here. there's a possibility of some major changes to entitlement spending by the end of these fiscal
. >>> "outfront" next. just 26 days until the fiscal cliff, and a new idea is born. it comes from an unexpected source, howard dean. does the former vermont governor's plan add up? plus, a former u.s. navy sailor charged with attempted espy naj tonight. the alleged benefactor was russia. the war on drugs? have we lost it? let's go "outfront." good evening. a bright idea brought to us by the liberal former governor of vermont, howard dean. the man who brought us the scream heard round the world when he ran for president. yeah! >> dean says let's face it, america. taxes need to go up for everyone. now, this might not be what you expect from someone like howard dean. it's certainly not the president's position or the position of most americans. another new poll out today shows most people like the president's ideas of only raising taxes on other people, specifically the top 2%. individuals making over $200,000 a year or families making over $250,000 a year. the problem is according to the congressional research service, the math doesn't add up. that tax hike would give $678 billion in additional r >>> "outfront" next, just 25 days until the fiscal cliff and a new idea is born. it comes from an unexpected source. howard dean, does the former vermont's governor's plan add up? plus, a sailor charged with espionage and the war on drugs. we lost it. sir richard branson is "outfront." let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, a bright idea. brought to us by the liberal former governor of vermont, howard dean. a man who brought us the scream heard around the world when reran for president. dean says let's face it, america, tacks need to go up for everyone. now, this might not be what you expect from someone like howard dean. it's certainly not the president's position or the position of most americans. another new poll out today shows that most people like the president's idea of only raising taxes on other people. specifically, the top 2%. the problem is according to the congressional research service, the math doesn't add up. that tax hike would only give $678 billion in additional revenue over ten years, now, remember, we're $16 trillion in the deb
, ross. i mean, you don't really know what is going to come out of the u.s. fiscal cliff, how damaging potentially that can be to u.s. confidence, u.s. activity. things seem to be holding up fairly well in china. but i think there is still going to be some concerns about the whole performance of the asian economy and whether that can actually pick up next year. and then, of course, in the eurozone itself, we seem to be mending the problems progressively and taking out the tail risks, which i think is good and that is the bottom line that investors should take going further forward, but at the same time, there are some elements that you can have. if you do a forecast, in a way you could come up with something like 1% quotes for next year, but at the same time, you have to be conscious that we've had such a battery of downside impact, downside negative news coming through really for all economists in the western world in the last few years. you have to be very cognizant of those. >> i think so. julian, we're going to leave because we have to get a break in and we've got to g to egypt as
to the edge of the fiscal cliff. it's time for the president, if he's serious to come back to us with a counter offer. >> the president told a virginia family on thursday he won't back down on taxing the rich. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one. >> the rebels gain on assad raising fears he might use chemical weapons. that was enough to frighten the russians into talking with hillary clinton about a political transition. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process re -- result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> a tragic turn of events in london. the nurse that first transferred that prank call to duchess catherine is found dead. david axelrod shaves it all off on "morning joe." >> joe scarborough. >> are your friends at the white house watching? >> laughi
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on the fiscal cliff as we should be, but we're looking at a national security cliff coming as well, bus you've got the middle east basically in many ways spiraling out of control. al-qaeda resurging across the region. a president who is sitting silently, the state department calling for calm. in egypt you've got people who want democracy rising up against the muslim brother hood who is not a friend of the united states,f the united states, and clearly we have put ourselves in a position but we don't have the ability to influence the outcome. >> sean: what's amazing to me, i mean, this is now being chronicled. the silence is deafening. >> right. >> sean: there's two instance where i think obama should have spoken up, and i don't think in the case of mubarak as imperfect as he was. i predicted and you and a few others predicted the muslim brother hood would take over. exactly what is happening was not unpredictable. but as i watch all of this unfold, he wasn't there for the iranian green movement. >> right. >> sean: he's not here now. what is he standing for? >> well, you had president obama
ne geithner announced of of the white house that we would, quote, absolutely go over the fiscal cliff which would trigger tax cuts and spending increases unless taxes increase on the top two percent of wage earnings. >> i want you you to understand when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy. if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy. >> all right. it appears the very definition of the american dream is now being rewritten by president barack obama. now, today our commander-in-chief publicly said he's not going to play games with the fiscal cliff, but that is just not reality. right now the president is playing a very dangerous game of chicken and this is with your paycheck and the american dream. meanwhile, the republicans have allowed themselves to get caught in a circular firing squad. they're negotiating publicly among themselves while true conservatives and tea party members are being removed from ke
with the realities of new taxes that are coming on-line because of health care. the fiscal cliff issues, et cetera. let the speaker do what the speaker does best, and that's negotiate his deal. >> the other michael steele, in this town, which is to say speaker boehner, one of his spokes people, released this tidbit of information, and i stress the word tidbit because it is ever so small. discussions with the white house are taking place, but we have no detail to share about the substance of those conversations. the republican offer made last week remains a republican offer, and we continue to wait for the president to identify the spending cuts he's willing to make as part of the balanced approach he promised the american people. when they are in a room together, do they stare at each other and not talk? presumably like some words are communicated and there is some ball moving somewhere if not forward then to the side? >> i'm going to twitch my eye a little bit. you're going to have to guess which entitlement i'm talking about. i think that's the case. i mean, it seems like part of the boehner str
to extend just to middle class tax cuts to avoid the cliff for now and come back next year with more leverage to tie spending cuts and medicare reform to another hike in the nati's debt ceing. >> we're not going to play that game next year. if congress, in any way suggests they tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the ink of default again as part of a budget negotiation, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their meeting with small business owners and denied they are trying to punt until next year. >> i'll be here. i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving the problem. >> they noted the president has not scheduled any meetings with g.o.p. leaders in weeks and not offered a counterproposal to boehner's plan from last week. >> frankly, it was the balanced apoach the president's be asking for. we need a response from the white house. >> reporter: the president continues to envies the only impediment to t deal is boehner's $800 million in tax revenue is not enough. >> the hold upright now is that speaker boehne
cuts that have come to be known as the fiscal cliff and today republicans stood by their offer to close some tax loopholes and limit deductions and called on the for the give them a new plan that the congress could. president obama spent his day with the santana family of falls church and he says they're members of the middle class and they'll be hit hard if congress fails to extend their tax cuts. meantime virginia could be hit hard if those spending cuts end up taking place especially in places like fairfax county where federal contracting is king. >> if you go make the kind of cuts that some are suggesting happen, then you're really hurting a lot of the small buss
the pieces coming together on the fiscal cliff some increase in marginal tax rates coupled with some kind of cutting back on tax expenditures. the real concern is shifting or will shift from the fiscal cliff to the debt limit. it's not clear that the republicans will agree to including a debt limit increase in that kind of package and if they don't, we may get past december 31st only to find ourselves with a big problem in february or march. >> the obama administration has been clear they will not sign anything. even to get past december 31st. so do you think they can hold firm on that if republicans offer them a package that doesn't include the debt ceiling? >> this is where i think the tension is now arising, which is even if you have some agreement over the tax rates which will jam the republicans a bit, can you jam them on the debt limit also, the concern will be an administration overstepping or overream reaching and trying to jam in the kinds being discussed now. i'm all in favor of getting rid of the debt limit. it makes no sense from a technical perspective. but it's probably a br
boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff, we're not reading out details of the communication, but the lines of communication remain open, end quote. this meeting comes as the white house and congress appear to be at at impasse, you know by now is crippling spending and tax hikes and could cost us jobs and send us back into recession and to solve the problem, republicans say we must prevent our ballooning national debt from crushing generations. and chief white house correspondent now ed henry joins us by phone with the latest on this breaking story, ed, they kept this under wraps. how big after deal is this? >> good evening, harris, there's not a deal yesterdt. but it's significant it's almost a month since speaker boehner and the president sat down at the white house. that's ever significance, there's been scattered phone calls and one plan the president put on the table, quickly rejected by the republicans and speaker boehner put a counter offer on the table and the white house dismissed that one so much so it's not really a real plan and that t
the season. but time clearly seems to be running short. fiscal cliff, no hockey. what is wrong? come on, america. >> america. like $1 billion apart. >> wow. >> sad. much different labor issue cropped up outside a wal-mart in kansas city. mom to be, get it, labor. started feeling woozie while in the checkout line. she stepped outside for fresh air. that is when her water broke. >> oh, and game on after that. >> fortunately, off duty police officer, matt fell temperatuphe personal superhero with the help of the fire fighter and salvation army bell ringer they delivered her baby girl just eight minutes later. both mother and baby are doing just fine. >> eight minute delivery. >> eight minutes. jealous of that. hope she got the receipt for the baby highlighted as she left the door that. would be good. >> i go out. >> thank you. funnyman, bill murray in a very presidential movie role. >> living longer than you can possibly imagine, maybe even want, what the seniors of tomorrow can expect from the active elderly off to day. it's coming of on "world news now." ♪ forever young forever young
in the situation room. they're working very hard to avoid the fiscal cliff. thanks so much for coming in. for so long, republicans wanted to extend the bush tax cuts forever, now for 98% of the american people, the democrats are saying, we're ready. we've given up, we'll let you have those bush tax cuts for as long as possible. let's just resolve that, we'll move on to some of the tougher issues later. let's make sure that 98% of the american families have these lower tax rates into next year. why not give that? >> the debate over those top two pshsz, is really a strong man debate. what we need is tax reform in america. we need a simpler less complicated tax code. >> i agree with you. we need a tax reform. why not resolve this one issue, make sure taxes don't increase for 98% of the americans, 100% of americans for their first $250,000 a year. let them have that, and then move on to tax reform and some of the other issues. >> i think it's important not to confuse a quick fix with a real fix. we could increase the top 2% their tax rates to 100% and it would cover 91 days worth of spending. it doe
now, especially with budget cuts coming in the battle over the fiscal cliff but the agency has an unlimited line of credit with the treasury department. today, the housing secretary could not rule out tapping it but he said those hire fha loan fees and other changes could head it off. >> based on all of that, do you expect a taxpayer bailout as we sit here today? if so, when? >> based on those stats, i believe we have significantly decreased the chance of having a bailout at the end of 2013 or having to draw on the treasury. i'm not going to assign a possibility at this -- probabilt this point. >> thinks the fha could end up tapping the treasury short-term for several billion dollars next year. shepard. >> shepard: when next year, pete, do we know. >> the devil rays session it will signal intentions on possible treasury funding for the fha when it releases budget for 2014 in february and will actually make a final decision on all of this next september. shepard? >> shepard: peter barnes on capitol hill, thanks. the man investigators unleashing terror inside a crowded colorado m
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